i havent been to a meeting in four years.
during that time i completed a successful fade from the organization after almost 40 years being baptized.
it seems nothing anymore will surprise or shock me with these latest bunch of brooklyn leaders.
I want to know when the JW's will start advertising their cult with banner ads, like the Mormons do.
What kind of monitoring can they do at KH's, when people use their WiFi? What types of privacy infringements can they sneak into their "terms of use?"
If they are smart, they are looking for ways to grant themselves access to view your internet usage, both at and away from the KH. I'm not sure what is legal, but I'm sure there are ways to track users somehow.
i posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.
i wasn't sure what the response would be.
yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.
I contacted Amazon, and it was confirmed that the packages were delivered, but refused by recipient. I decided to send an email to my sister:
"Hi (Sister),
I sent packages to (nephew) and (niece), and received confirmation that they were delivered on 12/18.
Yesterday, I was informed that those packages were returned as undeliverable. Did I send to the wrong address? I sent another package to your family, with some treats. Did you receive that one, or did your neighbors eat it? I'm confused. I have been struggling with this concern for (niece and nephew), always left out of every family occasion. I thought it would be nicer to give this year, than to exclude them again. I shopped carefully, looking for gifts that were neutral but fun and useful. I really do love you and your family, and want you to know that we care a lot about your kids and their happiness. If you will accept them, I will send the gifts again. I hope you will consider sending me a reply to this email, either way. Sending our love to you all, Faithful Witness" Quite honestly, I do not expect a reply. I may follow up with a phone call. I know she is out in service right now. Thank you all for your replies. I know I'm making a fool of myself, but I agree with Xanthippe. I am done being controlled by the JW's.
i posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.
i wasn't sure what the response would be.
yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.
The food gift was delivered separately, from a different company. I received confirmation of delivery on December 18, and then an email telling me that the package was undeliverable, two weeks later. I wonder if they called UPS for a return pickup, or if they drove the packages back themselves.
Should I email my sister, and ask her what happened?
I'm not even sure the kids knew about the gifts. I am tempted to try again, timing my order so that they will be delivered on a Saturday. They will all come home from service, and see the gifts waiting for them on the porch.
I mentioned it to my mom today, and she seemed genuinely surprised and disgusted. I had asked her opinion beforehand, and I also emailed my sister to let her know they were coming, and what was inside the boxes (a kitten calendar and a building set).
I've wrestled with this idea since we started celebrating Christmas with my kids 3 years ago. I made the comment today to my mother, that I decided to err on the side of giving, instead of excluding the kids.
Oh well, I did try. Maybe they got and ate the treats, and then felt so guilty for it, they couldn't bring themselves to open the gifts. Or, the parents ate the food and never told the kids about it.
I will never understand the JW mind games, with their ever-changing rules. Those poor, lonely kids.
i posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.
i wasn't sure what the response would be.
yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.
The other package, which was a box of treats in a blue box, was reported as delivered and accepted.
I'm going to assume they ate it, but who knows.
i posted a question here after i sent packages to my jw niece and nephew in december.
i wasn't sure what the response would be.
yesterday, i got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded.
I posted a question here after I sent packages to my JW niece and nephew in December. I wasn't sure what the response would be.
Yesterday, I got an email that the packages were "undeliverable," and my money was refunded. I'm assuming they refused the delivery.
I hope I haven't made things worse for the kids.
it doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
It sounds like another way to control people, and of course get money.
i have been posting on here for a few weeks now and i know i have been quite colourful in my language.. i hope i have'nt offended anyone, if so, i am sorry.. i'm just so damn angry about everything.
i feel like an idiot.
i'd been falling for the bs for so many years.. will these feelings ever fade?.
Doesn't it feel great, to finally be aware of your own mind, and be free to speak it? :)
jgnat: in the words of our bible study conductor, "How does it feel to realize you've been lied to your whole life?"
No wonder there are so many angry JW's out there... it is wonderful to find a place where self-expression is encouraged!
i have decided that ignoring my niece and nephew during the holidays, is the most unloving thing i could possibly do.
they stopped celebrating christmas and birthdays, after my sister began studying with jw's about 6-7 years ago.
we did not celebrate either, until 3 years ago, when my son was 2 and my daughter was 4, and we'd figured out that the jw's are wrong about this decision.
blondie: that is a question I have been asking them for many months. What is my status? I was never a JW, but a bible student for a long time. We seriously considered and examined it carefully. When asked directly, they tell me there is no problem with me. Their behavior is the exact opposite, treating me as if I do not exist, unless they can see me seeing them seeing me.
I do not do well at mind games. I do not know what is expected or acceptable.
I will say this: A year ago, my dad sent out an email to all his adult children. (5 out of 6 are not JW's,never have been). In this message, he stated that his main focus in life now is to be a "good Jehovah's Witness." I found this statement alarming. It was followed with, "I hope you have noticed some improvements." I did reply to him privately, and challenged him to ask himself whether he was serving jehovah, or serving an organization.
I have not seen any improvements in my father, unless numbness and lack of passion for life would be considered an improvement. He has grown in thoughtlessness, and has bled this bizarre behavior all over my mother, who used to be my best friend. They have become rude, arrogant and robotic.
He had asked me not to share his messages with anyone else, to avoid hurt feelings. (In it, he told me how he would always be closer to my JW sister, even if I did become a JW.) I told him that I would do that, but that I hoped he would share mine. "I wouldn't be surprised if they discourage you from communicating with me anymore, after 42 years of a fine family relationship." I have not heard from him since. He will speak to me, if we happen to be t the same place at the same time.
It is only my sister, who has come right out and told me that she won't bring her kids into my house. She has to protect them from idolatry.
Ok, moving on to my own life, and my own family, that actually cares if I exist. I hope the kids enjoy their gifts, and that maybe one of those cookies in that gift box, will crunch in a way that wakes up a brain cell in my sister's skull. Probably not.
Confusion makes sense to JW's.
underlining is mine.. march 6, 2012 letter.
pursue divine education:some of our brothers are pursuing higher education, feeling that they can acquire a measure of financial security.
as you are aware, the educational system varies from country to country.
They didn't like the fact that we were unwilling to submit and stop using our brains. My husband's college degree and zeal for asking questions and adding other relevant information to a discussion, got them to stop calling on him during the watchtower lesson. The conductor was an engineer by trade, and clearly financially well-off. He would look right at his hand in the air and call on someone else. My husband actually enjoys studying, and he would add interesting thoughts to the discussions. that was a problem.
Little did he know, that this very behavior was what caused us to start questioning whether they were sincere in thier beliefs. The subsequent threats from our teacher solidified the idea that these people were not genuine.
They not only want to protect the sheep from the evil education system, but protect the flock from educated people. Keeping out those who have degrees and good jobs, is just making them more desperate to feed off the weak and feeble.
it doesn't allow anyone to register.
are they to scared of the feedback from those who know ' the truth about the truth'.
it seems to me they should not even have a contact us function (especially if your main form of contact is email, which is the norm for 2013) who designed this thing................. are the elders and the privileged jw's sent their logon details... i would love to know the secret squirrel shite.
Splash: Access to what extras?
Kate: that is sickening.
